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Episode 153: Healing In Men (Part 4) w/ Paul George
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Episode 153: Healing In Men (Part 4) w/ Paul George

This week, Jake and Bob conclude their series and welcome Paul George, founder of The Art of Living Ministry. They explore the interior journey of a man learning to face his wounds, surrender control, and become who God created him to be. Paul shares his personal story— from childhood wounds and self-sufficiency to finding healing through marriage, prayer, and mentorship. They also discuss how unresolved pain can shape a man’s identity, how it affects his relationships, and why vulnerability is the doorway to intimacy and freedom.

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Episode 152: Healing In Men (Part 3) w/ Devin Schadt
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Episode 152: Healing In Men (Part 3) w/ Devin Schadt

This week, Jake and Bob continue their series and welcome Devin Schadt, founder of the Fathers of St. Joseph, to explore the journey of becoming a man through suffering, healing, and self-giving love. Devin shares his powerful story of childhood wounds, addiction, and broken relationships, and how an unexpected encounter and a profound experience of God’s mercy began to transform his life. They also discuss how unmet needs for affirmation can drive men toward the false promises of the world, how true identity is restored through relationship with God the Father, and the masculine call to sacrificial love.

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Episode 151: Healing In Men (Part 2) w/ Dr. John Bishop
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Episode 151: Healing In Men (Part 2) w/ Dr. John Bishop

This week, Jake and Bob welcome Dr. John Bishop, founder of FORGE, to continue their series on healing in men. John shares his perspective on why so many men today lack a clear picture of what it means to be a good man. He begins with the story of Adam, uncovering God’s original design for masculinity—one rooted in work, responsibility, and the courage to engage in the world and the people entrusted to him. From there, he describes the wounds men experience from Adam’s fall: fear, shame, and the tendency for men to withdraw, hide, or dominate rather than love. Yet, with Jesus Christ as a model, whose life and sacrifice reveal the true strength of a man, they reflect on how men can recover a living image of faithful, engaged, and restored masculinity.

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Episode 149: Healing In Men (Part 1) w/ John Edwards
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Episode 149: Healing In Men (Part 1) w/ John Edwards

This week, Jake and Bob welcome John Edwards, a fellow guy in the pew, to share his raw and redemptive journey from addiction and secrecy to finding his identity in God. From outward success and hidden cocaine use to the devastating loss of his mother, John reveals how grief, shame, and a longing for affirmation shaped his choices—and nearly destroyed his marriage and family. He opens up about the masks he wore, the lies he believed about God as a harsh judge, and the panic attacks that finally exposed the prison he was living in. With honesty and courage, John recounts the night he chose confession over isolation, and how mercy began to break through years of self-reliance and despair. If you’ve ever felt abandoned by God or buried under your own failures, this conversation is an invitation to bring your whole story into the light.

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Episode 132: Healing, Discipleship and the Heart w/ John Eldredge
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Episode 132: Healing, Discipleship and the Heart w/ John Eldredge

This week, Jake and Bob are joined by John Eldredge, president of Wild at Heart, to discuss what authentic discipleship looks like in a distracted digital age. They explore the subtle ways constant connectivity and information overload can erode our spiritual focus, hinder intimacy with God, and ultimately fragment our souls. John also shares stories and insights from his own journey, highlights how unchecked busyness can mask deeper wounds or spiritual emptiness, and encourages listeners, with practical advice, to seek genuine communion with Jesus for true restoration.

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Episode 128: Healing Within a Parish Community
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Episode 128: Healing Within a Parish Community

This week, Jake and Bob share ideas on how to foster a healthy parish community. They not only reflect on the challenges of developing true community within a parish but also ponder how healthy parish life revolves around our personal healing and freedom. Through the use of multiple personal examples, Jake and Bob also explore the importance of the Sacraments, the role of forgiveness, and how love and fear bonds affect our relationships with God and those around us.

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Episode 119: The Four Reasons for Christmas
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Episode 119: The Four Reasons for Christmas

Merry Christmas! This week, Jake and Bob have a heartfelt conversation about loss and healing during the Christmas season. Bob shares about recently losing a family member and reflects on the healing power of being present with one another during times of grief. They also explore the significance of Jesus’ birth, the complexities of self-reflection in the context of healing, and transforming traditions into opportunities for deeper connection and presence.

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Episode 113: Rooted In Love w/ Isaac Wicker
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Episode 113: Rooted In Love w/ Isaac Wicker

This week, Jake and Bob are joined by Isaac Wicker, a licensed counselor and co-founder of Known, a 12-week online Catholic coaching program to heal wounded relationships with God the Father. Isaac shares his story of his own mental health journey, his approach to helping others overcome their struggles and discover their worth, as well as the role of loving people in therapy. They also discuss the importance of bringing all our emotions and desires to God, especially when we are exploring our own woundedness.

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Episode 108: Parenting w/ Duane and Carrie Daunt
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Episode 108: Parenting w/ Duane and Carrie Daunt

This week, Jake and Bob are joined by Duane and Carrie Daunt to discuss what living out our identity of father or mother can look like as a biological parent. Duane and Carrie share the challenges and joys of parenting a large family and the role sacrifice plays in creating a strong and loving home. They also talk about how their own woundedness has impacted their parenting journey, the role of community, and what to do when spouses disagree.

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Episode 107: The Four Identities (Father/Mother) w/ Heather Khym
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Episode 107: The Four Identities (Father/Mother) w/ Heather Khym

This week, Jake and Bob are once again joined by Heather Khym to conclude their four part series on the four identities of a human. In this episode, they focus on the identity of father/mother, discuss maturation versus healing, and explore how unresolved wounds in the other three identities surface in the identity of mother/father. They also discuss the unique yet complementary qualities of a good mother or father and how they represent different traits of God’s character. Whether you have biological or spiritual children, remember the key to experiencing the fullness of our role as mother/father is becoming little and allowing God to love and heal us.

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Episode 106: The Four Identities (Bride/Bridegroom) w/ Heather Khym
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Episode 106: The Four Identities (Bride/Bridegroom) w/ Heather Khym

This week, Jake and Bob are once again joined by Heather Khym to continue with part three of their four part series on the four identities of a human. In this episode, they focus on the identity of bride/bridegroom and delve into the interconnectedness of each identity and why healing is essential to living them out fully. They discuss self-giving vs. self-seeking love, the role of bride/bridegroom in every vocation, and how learning to love others well is an important aspect of our healing journeys.

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Episode 104: The Four Identities (SON/DAUGHTER) w/ Heather Khym
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Episode 104: The Four Identities (SON/DAUGHTER) w/ Heather Khym

This week, Jake and Bob are joined by Heather Khym to begin a four part series on the four identities of a human: son/daughter, brother/sister, husband/wife, father/mother. In this episode, they focus on the identity of our sonship/daughtership, explore why this is the foundational identity, and unpack the core realities behind this identity from both a masculine and feminine perspective. They end the episode by sharing personal stories of healing and restoration within their identity as a beloved son/daughter.

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Episode 97: Divorce (Part 3) w/ Bob’s Mother Peggy
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Episode 97: Divorce (Part 3) w/ Bob’s Mother Peggy

This week, a special guest joins the podcast - Bob’s mother, Peggy. Bob has shared the story of his absent father and the healing that took place over years of prayer. Now, Peggy shares her testimony of tender love, hardship, and forgiveness. She opens up about the beautiful relationship she had with her husband, the pain experienced in the divorce, and her self-sacrifice as she raised her 7 children.

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Episode 96: Divorce (Part 2) w/ Nicole Rodriguez
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Episode 96: Divorce (Part 2) w/ Nicole Rodriguez

This week, Jake and Bob are joined by Nicole Rodriguez as they continue their series on divorce. Nicole’s parents divorced when she was 11 years old & the trauma she experienced affected her through childhood and into her marriage. In the episode, she shares how her marriage suffered because of these wounds as well as the healing she has received through her relationship with the Lord, her spiritual parents & her husband’s willingness to walk alongside her.

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Episode 95: Divorce (Part 1) w/ Joey Pontarelli
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Episode 95: Divorce (Part 1) w/ Joey Pontarelli

This week, Jake and Bob are joined by Joey Pontarelli, the founder and president of the ministry “Restored”. After finding a lack of help after his parents’ divorce, Joey decided to begin ministry with “Restored” to offer practical guidance and support for teens and young adults from broken families. Jake, Bob, and Joey discuss the wounds that come from divorce, their personal experiences, and practical advice on how to respond to this woundedness. 

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Episode 93: Healing & Christmas
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Episode 93: Healing & Christmas

Merry Christmas from Jake & Bob! This week, they discuss the healing power of Jesus' infancy narrative. They recognize that this time of year can be difficult for many people and offer some solutions. Jake shares some of his triggers & wounds around the Christmas season so Bob leads him through a deep prayer and meditation. It’s a beautiful insight into the work that they both do. We hope you all have a very blessed Christmas.

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Episode 92: Adoption (Part 4)
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Episode 92: Adoption (Part 4)

Sr. Miriam James Heidland shares her experience of being adopted. Jake, Bob & Sister have worked together for years and start the conversation off by discussing her impactful ministry, finding identity in Christ & her healing journey. She then shares about finding out she was adopted & the struggles & graces experienced along the way.

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Episode 91: Adoption (Part 3)
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Episode 91: Adoption (Part 3)

Chris & Michelle Benzinger share their story of adopting two children from Haiti after a hurricane devastated the country. They share with Jake & Bob how they weren’t planning to adopt until the Lord put it on their heart. They discuss how they navigated integrating these children into their family & how there was joint restoration for everyone involved. Michelle also talks about her experience with Safe & Sound protocol & its role in her healing journey.

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Episode 90: Adoption (Part 2)
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Episode 90: Adoption (Part 2)

This may be the most special episode of the podcast yet! Jake & Bob are joined by Bob’s sister, her husband and his 48 year old nephew Brian that Bob just met for the first time this year! They gave up their son for adoption after a teenage pregnancy and the wounds were still there for everybody after over 40 years. Then, by nothing short of a miracle, the family was reconnected! It’s a beautiful story of grace, healing, reconciliation and God’s abundant love.

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Episode 89: Adoption (Part 1)
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Episode 89: Adoption (Part 1)

Jake & Bob kick off a new series on adoption. We have all been impacted by adoption, whether through family situations or spiritually since we are all adopted as sons and daughters of God. Jake & Bob tackle heart dynamics of adoption, separation anxiety & ruptures of primary relationships along with defining dissociation & attachment trauma. This series will have something for everyone!

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